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Making useless uniques useful?

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:06 am
by Marky
There are still quite a few uniques in the game, like various weapons of the gods, fire armor, ice armor, and so on.
Some weapons (e.g. gorn steel dagger) have only a short use for a person in game. Compared to a tit dagger it's useless.
Or maybe you find some pieces that don't match your chars.

How about we could hand them in at some point, in return of tokens. With these tokens items can be bought.
Maybe stat scrolls, and/or hp/end/mana scrolls.
Maybe special armor, like ankh belt, cave amulet, for the right amount of tokens.

And maybe you could hand in stat scrolls too, to recycle the scrolls you don't want for something useful?

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:53 am
by xclusive
I found a cry kwai sword and I think just dumped on the temple floor because of no value. Fun idea for uniques but agree would like a reason to use/find.

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:32 am
by Offended
Would be awesome to be able to use Gorn and Kwai weapons...

Maybe have those "clan only" weapons? Since Purple has their own weapons.

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:20 am
by Sigtyr
Gorn and Kwai is related to clans. As from in Old v2. Weird, but it's like this, divided in 4 pieces. Skua, Purple, Kwai, Gorn. Skua = Friendly peoples and no fights. Purple is all about PvP when chance bids. Gorn and Kwai was as far as I remember 2 clans, 1 with AH/AT's ruling(Gorn) and 1 by Seyans (Kwai). Someone may have to look into the code for those two last ones, and see if it can be removed and eventually set 1 to Skua and 1 to Purple, making it 2 uniques for both, as there are no Gorn/Kwai clans anymore.

-Sigtyr

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:28 pm
by Lordlava
I do not recall seeing anything in the code relating to the old clans.

There were a few old relic clan portals that did not work but that is all that I can recall.

Kwai will not allow u to get a new Seyan blade if your luck is below 50.
The Seyan shrines are sponsored by Kwai.
There is the old Kwai Clan hall.

Gorn has the Clan Hall.

Both have the unique weapons.

That is all I can see easily.

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:22 pm
by Sigtyr
But the Kwai and Gorn weapons can not be used by Skua or Purple players. So it must be something in the code that say something about why they can't be activated by Skua/Purple players. If you activate a Skua weapon as Purple player, it won't let you, because you're not member of Skua, and the other way around. So holding Kwai or Gorn weapon will only give you a tiny WV boost, and you can not activate em to get the + resist or AV, or what they used to give when activated. (It only last for some minutes when activated tho, and weapons turn normal)
Ps: I remember I used to play on another server many years ago, and they still had Kwai and Gorn clans in game. You automaticly went Kwai when you turned Seyan.

-Sigtyr

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:49 pm
by Lordlava
The are no Kwai or Gorn character flags or Item flags.
There is a Purple character flag (and a Seyan kindred) and a purple item flag.

I have not seen anything that stops you using Kwai or Gorn items.
If you know the message it gives I can look it up but a quick scan did not reveal it.

Purple protect from an item is driven by the purple flag.
Skua protect is driven by the item driver= 18;

There does not appear to be an equivalent for Kwai or Gorn.

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:40 am
by Sigtyr
I will come with the message as soon as I get hold of those two kinds of weapons. As I clearly remember you couldn't use em, when I first came back again about a year ago. Hence I haven't bothered collecting them. :lol:

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:25 am
by Offended
Lordlava wrote:The are no Kwai or Gorn character flags or Item flags.
There is a Purple character flag (and a Seyan kindred) and a purple item flag.

I have not seen anything that stops you using Kwai or Gorn items.
If you know the message it gives I can look it up but a quick scan did not reveal it.

Purple protect from an item is driven by the purple flag.
Skua protect is driven by the item driver= 18;

There does not appear to be an equivalent for Kwai or Gorn.
I don't remember there ever being a message, they just do not activate.

I'll find one this week and report back.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:53 am
by xclusive
I have kwai dagger and just doesn’t activate - no message.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:26 pm
by Sigtyr
[quote="xclusive"]I have kwai dagger and just doesn’t activate - no message.[/quote]
Try make a Seyan who's not in a Clan to activate it? As they were kwai before I know.

-Sigtyr

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:22 pm
by Lordlava
Skua and Purple weapons have special drivers (skua_protect and purple_protect.
Kwai and Gorn do not.
As far as I know, they have not had these drivers for as long as I have been on the admin team (~2009).

Skua says you can not be purple.
Purple says you must be purple.

It would be relatively simple to add something similar for Kwai and Gorn, but with what restrictions...?

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:47 pm
by Marky
Gorn and kwai have lesser stats.
So why not keep them without restrictions?

Btw, I found a bronze gorn sword today. Even with gorn being enabled, it is still useless....

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:05 am
by Bubbles
we protest! let us reforge our unique into greater weapons!
gather the rare materials,
wait for full moon,
climb and reach the top of aranock mountains,
sing the ritual,
spin around 2times to the left, once to the right then
knock your heels together

boom.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:14 am
by Bubbles
xclusive wrote:I found a cry kwai sword and I think just dumped on the temple floor because of no value. Fun idea for uniques but agree would like a reason to use/find.
All these unique and ancient weapons are forged with divine materials and all of them should be handled with care.
how dare you??

sad reality but he's telling the truth